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Richmond Shreve

NaCCRA Board Member

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Jennifer,


I am a member of about 300 CCRA residents in Northern VA. Our community receives help desk-like services from a contracted provider. We get one help person working M to F, 8 hrs a day. He has skills in IOS as well PCs. He also supports “smart” devices, video teleconferencing and printer connectivity. Our campus has a resident shared WiFi network that covers every building on the campus.


Here are some metrics:

Average time to ticket resolution: 22 hrs

Average time to first contact: 72.5 minutes

Tickets open last month: 124

Open tickets from last week: 8

Tickets opened this week: 7


We have a resident run IT Committee. The Committee and the IT contractor run classes for residents. These run the gamut of logging onto and using our internal web site. Our IT committee teaches technology related classes like intro to AI sites and services.


We also have a contracted provider to do network management, IT consultation, and website provision with an ensemble of portal services.


We do not have a technically trained member of management. Our present senior management for IT was our prior food services manager. Any support from staff is a secondary work assignment. Yet, staff does manage to “feed” data into our web site like directory entries, publish copies of presentations, use it to communicate events, announcements, etc.


We also leverage support from local university students.


Operations Committee Chairman

Vinson Hall Retirement Association

McLean, VA 22101

I ‘m appalled at the response from the management at Jennifer’s CCRC and hope there is a reconsideration of their proposal. I live at Applewood (112 independent apartments). Like many CCRCs we have several residents who are happy to help with personal computers and cell phones, but no formal group.

It was clear that volunteers could not handle some of the requests. We convinced the administration to hire a part time technician. Since we are one of three facilities of the nonprofit Loomis Communities, this quickly became a shared position and has been very successful.

The technician is on our campus two days a week and responds to the apartment. Officially if the visit takes 15 or 20 minutes, there is no charge. If it’s a larger problem the resident may be charged - or advised to get help “outside.” The technician provides a community wide tech session once every other month or so on common problems.

This has worked very well.

Let’s move this discussion to the new thread I created for IT support


Operations Committee Chairman

Vinson Hall Retirement Association

McLean, VA 22101

Hello. I just followed the "sign up" instructions to join this forum. While I have posted comments and replies to NaCCRA's public forums over the years, I'm experimenting here. It didn't immediately jump out at me how to begin a new thread (topic).


I'm wondering if the subject I'm interested in discussing, described below, is for this particular forum. If not, just let me know.


If your community doesn't have a cadre of resident techies to provide technical help and knowledge to their neighbors needing such, what DO you have? Has your management vetted and offered an outside vendor to provide individual service and be "on call"? For example, if someone thinks they've been hacked or they've just purchased a new smart phone they can't figure out what do they do? Using someone from the public library only helps with "mobile" devices, since those volunteers can't enter one's individual unit to look at a desktop,


I have a back story to explain why finding this sort of help has arisen here at our community (of approximately 230 independent living residents). Someone moved in about 2 years ago and became a "go-to" person when someone on his floor needed "computer help." He was happy to respond. He became alarmed at how "unprotected" some were -- with no subscriptions to "security services" like Norton, Malware, etc. He mentioned his concern to upper management during a meeting of a special resident committee that discusses the community's budgets (operational and capital), discussing quarterly financial updates. He wanted to know if management had a concern about someone getting scammed out of their savings, losing the ability to pay their CCRC monthly fees, thereby becoming reliant on financial "assistance" via the Resident Assistance Fund. Both he and I were shocked when the CFO's response said, "Wait a minute, financial assistance may not be a "given," since allowing oneself to be so vulnerable might be considered inadequate personal financial management and therefore wouldn't fit the 'through no fault of their own' criteria to receive financial assistance. Each person should ensure that they took steps for cyber security." We found out later that this Assistance Fund had been ignored by our previous owner (a hospital system with deep pockets) and was predicted to run dry in FY 2025.


This other resident and I were stunned. We also didn't appreciate being treated as if we fell off a turnip truck --- no way would a CCRC kick someone to the curb who was scammed out of their money. Doing that would make the 6:00 p.m. News and the bad PR and bad public image would be considerable. But this also told us that the immediate problem of resident education, guidance, and help is up to residents themselves to resolve. We need to find an outside expert service that we researched and vetted in order to propose "something" to the population here. I wish we had a group of technically-inclined fellow residents, but we don't. If we locate this sort of "outside expertise" to subscribe to, I can figure out a way to "tout" it. Before doing so, we would try once again to get executive management to "get behind" what we came up with and/or "get ahead" of this serious matter. Remaining "on our own," would continue to be our only option.


For that reason, I'd like to know from NaCCRA members about services that specialize in helping seniors with their electronic devices -- from cell phones to I-pads to laptops to desk tops to smart TVs and streaming. Just telling people to use Geek Squad wouldn't be the solution, since I've heard that those young Squadders don't relate all that well to seniors who are VERY technically challenged.


Thanks for reading. If I need to be pointed in another direction to learn of recommendations, just let me know.

Richmond suggested that we introduce ourselves.

My career was as an employee benefits and pension lawyer and consultant in Philadelphia and later in Seattle. I graduated from law school in 1982 (the year that IBM PCs were first sold) so I became an attorney who used a PC and WordPerfect to draft 150-page pension plans and other legal documents for my clients. And the Senior Partner of my law firm noticed my ability to produce legal documents without a secretary, so he urged me to train the other lawyers how to do the same. So, as a sideline, I taught lawyers to use PCs from 1984 to 2007. Upon retirement, my wife persuaded to switch from the Microsoft world to Apple and I’ve been a Mac, iPhone and iPad helper and teacher ever since.

In 2017, after a 4-year stint on a City Council, we moved from Bainbridge Island Washington to Colorado, first to Vi at Highlands Ranch and then to the Wind Crest CCRC in the Denver area. At Wind Crest, I’m the coordinator of a group of about 15 volunteer Tech Helpers (two-thirds Apple specialists, and one-third Windows Android specialists). We provide two monthly drop-in help sessions to residents, plus occasional home visits.

I also provide tech help to Wind Crest clubs and groups, and to the teachers of our Learners Club courses. That includes developing websites, making videos, maintaining mailing lists, assisting with slide presentations, and so on.
Hello folks (and Steve)!

I am relatively new to NACCRA personally.  We have a resident who constantly sifts this useful site and pass to us his found gems.But with this new forum, I felt I needed to dive in myself. I have been a technologist since high school. I hold a BS in Physics, and while serving in the Army Signal Corps I got an MS in EE and one in CIS.  I retired in Brussels and became a NATO civil servant where I ran a branch in the NATO Communications and Informations Agency (NACISA). I am a member of our resident IT committee and I Chair our Operations Committee. Most of my life, I have been a collaborator.

Carl

Carl Schone
(757) 287-1340 (Mobile)


Welcome!


In addition to posting to this forum online, you may also post via email using the address "techforum@naccra.com." Attachments are allowed, so you can share documents and pictures easily. Let's work at building a network of technical mutual support for residents.


By way of introduction, I have been an electronics technician and hobbyist since 1950 -- before transistors were widely in use. In retirement, I have served as chief engineer of an FM radio station (WCFA-LP), and I lead the tech team in my community. I manage WordPress websites, design hybrid Zoom setups, and rehab old computers for charity. And, I am the IT guy among NaCCRA's Board of Directors.


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Richmond Shreve

NaCCRA Board Member

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